Charlene,
Either method you described can work. They do often end up with the horse looking a little bit like a ‘bobble head’ because they put it down…you release…it comes up, and the game goes on.
Here are some of the ways that I look at it. First off you will have more success if you have a horse that is naturally low headed. I own ten horses right now and all of them can be ridden in a frame with their heads low, but only one of them consistently does it in the field and everywhere because that is the way she is built. Guess which one was the easiest to train?
For the others here are some more things to remember. To take a horse and shape them a certain way takes time. I have been watching ‘The Biggest Loser’ with my family and it is a great example of how long it takes to reshape muscles, etc.
So when I am training a horse and I wish to encourage their muscles to be strong in a certain form then I need to hold them in that form pretty consistently. For this reason I ride most of my horses for the first year and a half in a frame that would remind you more of an ‘english’ horse (direct contact and two hands).
Also by bending and COUNTER BENDING horses drop their heads lower naturally while learning to steer better. Roxy was a good example. She was conditioned into a powerful frame for three years before the bareback/bridleless ride. And she was most comfortable in that frame after that even without a bridle. Now that she has been turned out for a few years she has lost her fitness level (from football player to couch potato) and she doesn’t carry the same frame.
The DVD that covers the bending and counter-bending methods I use is the Basic Body Control DVD which in addition to giving you great control over their body (shoulders, hips) has a side effect of a great headset.
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I have the very same problem with my two horses. I believe the first thing I will do is get that DVD.
Oh, thank you for this post. I’m a dinosaur from back in the days when horses didn’t carry their heads like that. At least, not because we ever wanted them to. Hard for me to understand, but SO nice to hear your sensible words. The horses’ own conformation dictates his most comfortable “head-set”. All the draw-reins and tie-downs in the world cannot change his own comfort level when travelling. The “see’saw” of the reins, in my old opinion, is that natural “swing” that the horses’ head already has in his gait, and increasing/releasing the pressure through that tempo.
I increased leg pressure to send the horse forward to get him “through” the pressure. Hope that made sense, Thanks again!
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Draw reins are a neat training tool but always ride with a set of direct reins also on your bit. Another thing is do not give up, consistency is key! If you ride half the workout carrying about the head, than get lazy and say ‘whatever’ the other half you aren’t being consistent so how can you expect the horse to be consistent? I also use a different bit for trail rides and those ‘whatever’ days so my horse now knows that this bit means businesses and the other means fun